By Bannon’s War Room | Aired 2/16/2026
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BEGIN TRANSCRIPT:
[00:00:00] Media Clip: Islamic Cleric:
Somebody like Mamdani? It is a game changer. We need somebody like Mamdani to be the mayor of New York, and that is a victory for the Ummah.
I’m jumping the gun here, but this is one of the narrow-minded [barriers] we need to break here. [A] guy tried not once, not twice—eight times—to shut our project down.
I don’t wanna go into all the details because of time. He failed miserably at every single level, and the project is still going full steam ahead.
Our biggest weakness is our percentage in this country. We are very disadvantaged. By the way, this is only in this country. Sweden—10% Muslim. Oslo, Norway—10% Muslim. Oslo, of all places. Vienna—the Ottoman Turks tried 200 years, they couldn’t do anything. Vienna is [00:01:00] 10% Muslim. 10% Muslim. England—London—it is estimated 20%.
[00:01:10] Media Clip: Jim Ratcliffe:
If you really want to deal with the major issues of immigration, with people opting to take benefits rather than working for a living—if you wanna deal with that—then you’re gonna have to do some things which are unpopular, um, and show some courage.
[00:01:24] Media Clip: Interviewer:
And has this government done that?
[00:01:26] Media Clip: Jim Ratcliffe:
No. I think they, they, they—I dunno whether it’s just the apparatus that hasn’t allowed Keir to do it, or he is maybe too nice. He’s a nice—I mean, I know Keir—he is a nice man. I like him.
But, um, it’s a tough job, and I think you have to do some difficult things with the UK to get it back on track, because at the moment I don’t think the economy’s in a good [place]. You can’t afford—you can’t have an economy with 9 million people on benefits and, um, [00:02:00] huge levels of immigrants coming into—I mean, the UK’s being colonized. It’s costing too much money. It will cause—
[00:02:06] Media Clip: Interviewer:
Be colonized?
[00:02:07] Media Clip: Jim Ratcliffe:
It’ll cause—well, yeah, yeah. The UK’s being colonized by immigrants really, isn’t it? I mean, the population of the UK is 58 million in 2020. Now it’s 70 million in [the UK].
[00:02:20] Media Clip: Interviewer:
You—you—
[00:02:20] Media Clip: Jim Ratcliffe:
That’s 12 million people.
[00:02:21] Media Clip: Interviewer:
You met recently with Nigel Farage, didn’t you?
[00:02:24] Media Clip: Jim Ratcliffe:
I did.
[00:02:24] Media Clip: Interviewer:
Do you think they would be a kind of a good government if they were to win the next election?
[00:02:31] Media Clip: Jim Ratcliffe:
Um, I think Nigel is an intelligent man, and, um, I think he’s got good intentions. But in a way, you could say exactly the same about Keir when Keir came in. I think it needs somebody who’s prepared to be unpopular for a period of time to get the big issues sorted out, would be my view.
[00:02:51] Media Clip: Unidentified:
Sharia is an expansive term here. So I’m looking, and it says here, uh, [00:03:00] on page one of your statement, “the enforcement of foreign child custody judgments” that’s coming into America, and we’re relying on Sharia interpretations from other places. Is that accurate?
[00:03:16] Speaker 6:
Uh, yes. There’s been numerous cases in which child custody judgments from either Islamic countries, or even non-Islamic countries that have Sharia courts—
[00:03:24] Media Clip: Unidentified:
How does that square with Reynolds, where you have a distinction between, well, religious practices and behavior, and here we have Sharia determining actual child custody issues totally irrespective of religious practices? How does that square with Reynolds?
[00:03:40] Speaker 6:
Well, clearly Reynolds would allow the government to regulate child custody whether or not the child custody rules were favored or disfavored by a religion.
However, there is a lack in our law addressing comity of foreign judgments, um, [00:04:00] and the constitutionality of the process by which those foreign courts reached their judgments.
There’s even a Ninth Circuit case—the Nevo case—where the Ninth Circuit explicitly said that you can’t do a constitutional analysis on a foreign judgment.
So under current law, it appears as though foreign courts can do things that our courts would never imagine doing, would clearly violate constitutional rights, and those judgments are being brought here and those judgments are, on many occasions, enforced.
[00:04:28] Speaker 2:
Britain is dar al-harb because they are, you know, anathema to God’s law. They’re not implementing it. They’re violating His sanctity. And therefore this is war against Allah and His Messenger.
We are obliged as Muslims to take the authority away from the people who have it and implement the Sharia. And I hope that can come in a very peaceful way. I hope that we can do that in a way where there’s no bloodshed.
The Messenger, Muhammad ﷺ, said that if the Muslims have authority and they have the ability to remove oppression, they must remove the oppression. So we believe [00:05:00] man-made law is oppression, because they are implementing non-Islamic law, violating their own sanctity.
So, you know, if we are in a position of power and authority, we are obliged to take that authority, with the minimum force, and to implement the Sharia. Certainly. So this will be the case one day in Britain.
[00:05:15] Speaker 7:
And when you talk about jihad, you’re not talking about spiritual striving—you’re talking about military jihad?
[00:05:21] Speaker 2:
No, I think there are two types of jihad in which people are engaging today. One is the jihad of the word, and the other is jihad of the sword.
So in Britain we are engaged in the jihad of the word. And it’s as important to remove the ideological foundation and, if you like, the pillars of Western civilization—like democracy and freedom and secularism—and to expose them, and to bring people back to worshiping the one true Lord, which is Allah, as much as it is important to remove the physical obstacles, which is the non-Islamic [regime].
[00:05:49] Peter McIlvenna:
You’ve had Chip Roy on numerous times, and Keith Self, and what they have done bringing together that caucus of concern over Sharia, and those hearings they [00:06:00] had—I saw Robert Spencer attending those hearings, who’s our guest on Thursday—but he was speaking about what is happening in terms of Islam and Sharia and gave evidence there at Capitol Hill to that judiciary committee.
So things are really happening. That grouping, that caucus, has now gone to 38, I think.
And there’s another great article in The Daily Signal called “An Inside Look at Congress’s New [Sharia] Law Caucus.” That’s 21st of January. It’s a great piece written by one of their journalists, and that really explains what is happening.
Then I think on the fifth—no—the fifth of this month, 5th of February, we had the attorney general then begin a lawsuit against CAIR because previously CAIR had tax-exempt status. They have operated freely with the restrictions that the governor put on them that stopped them buying land, getting state [00:07:00] funding.
But again, this is all state by state, and I really believe that to take [it] to the next step, we really need the Trump administration to engage on this, because this seems to be pushed from Texas, from Florida, and we need that federal action.
Because although the attorney general can start this lawsuit against CAIR, he can’t remove their tax-exempt status. I believe the IRS has to do that, so that is at the top level.
But then, of course, just the last point is the primary. And I think early voting opens on the 17th—is that Tuesday? Early voting? Yeah, early voting.
And that proposition which is on the ballot is key—to look at banning Sharia in Texas. And every Texan will have the right to put an X beside that—I think it’s an X or a tick or a number, whatever you do there.
But they will be able to decide [00:08:00] as Texans whether they want Sharia law to operate in Texas or not.
And the two main Sharia courts that are operating have over 300 cases a year. Yeah.
And those women—that’s not a choice for those women. They must comply, or else they’re thrown out of their cultures, their societies. Yeah. They’re rejected.
So they don’t do it out of duty or desire. They do it out of compulsion, and [that] has to change.
But I think this fight that we are having in Texas, with that proposition on the ballot, is phenomenal.
What is it, 3rd of March, is the primary? So this shows that actually things can happen. Things can move ahead.
But I think Texas are really leading that. And I know, Steve, that is why you’re doing “We the People Texas Daily.” I just put “weekly” in that just to make sure you read it.
[00:08:48] Speaker 9:
America, okay—if we don’t want them to implement secularism, so what do we want them to implement?
They say that America now, okay, there are not enough Muslims for them to implement this now. But now it is our challenge, as intellectuals, as academics, to [00:09:00] present solutions based on Islamic values, but in a second-level degree—not to tell them “replace secularism with Islam.” It won’t work.
Presenting Islam as a civilizational alternative—this needs from us a different way of addressing this generation, addressing, in fact, the whole world.
Trying to get into key positions where you are influencing the decisions, any decision-making.
If we are doing whatever we do and we are not influential, we cannot influence how politics is running.
We are not influencing the decision-making processes.
[00:10:04] Media Clip: Islamic Cleric:
We know that if we were to do this from zero to 100, the people are gonna see [it], yeah. We’re not gonna have this type—look at Afghanistan, look at other places.
And people understand they’re not gonna go from zero to 100 overnight.
Suppose a Muslim party, an Islamic party, comes in and they start changing [things], you know? We wanna make sure there’s no alcohol being sold, so can we—for the time being—
’Cause here’s the point: any type of stuff we do is not [to] substitute the Sharia. No. It’s a program to eventually apply the Sharia. Right.
[00:10:52] Media Clip: Marco Rubio:
The year that my country was founded, Lorenzo and Catalina Giraldi lived in Case Monte, in the Kingdom of Piedmont-Sardinia, [00:11:00] and José and María Rina lived in Sevilla, Spain.
I don’t know what, if anything, they knew about the 13 colonies which had gained their independence from the British Empire.
But here’s what I’m certain of: they could have never imagined that 250 years later one of their direct descendants would be back here today on this continent as the chief diplomat of that infant nation.
And yet here I am, reminded by my own story that both our histories and our fates will always be linked.
Together, we rebuilt a shattered continent in the wake of two devastating world wars.
When we found ourselves divided once again by the Iron Curtain, the free West linked arms with the courageous dissidents struggling against tyranny in the East to defeat Soviet communism.
We have fought against each other, then reconciled, then fought, then reconciled again, [00:12:00] and we have bled and died side by side on battlefields from Kapyong to Kandahar.
[00:12:10] Steve Bannon:
I didn’t want to torture you with—we had enough jihad in there to make you listen to Hillary’s [remarks] over there.
I’ll get back to the talks after we have a break at the bottom of the hour, because I think it’s very important.
They talked about Rubio in a more sophisticated way, Hillary kind of in her hectoring way—“Oh, protecting borders and limiting migration.”
Europe is far past that. How do I know that? Frank Gaffney’s been a colleague of mine—I don’t know, Frank, almost 20 years.
First, Frank, in this segment, what the stakes are: you were banned at CPAC back in 2008, 2009, I think, when we at Breitbart—or it might have been 2012, 2013—put on what you guys were banned/uninvited [from]. We put on the un—what was it called?
[00:12:53] Frank Gaffney:
The uninvited.
[00:12:54] Steve Bannon:
The uninvited. And they banned you from CPAC because you brought this [00:13:00] concept up of civilizational jihad.
A couple of years later, Raheem Kassam and yourself were both banned from Fox because you talked about the rape of these young British girls in these industrial towns in England, and you talked about no-go zones.
Raheem went over there and wrote books about Brussels no-go zones, and you guys were banned from Fox.
So we can’t talk about that.
The stakes tomorrow—we had Jenny on here—early voting starts. We got four or five minutes.
I want you to lay out the case for what are the stakes involved in this kind of Islamic takeover of the great state of Texas in the banning of Sharia law on the ballot, sir?
[00:13:39] Frank Gaffney:
Well, first may I just say it was delightful to see Jenny [Burton] on the program. She’s one of my favorite people, and she’s been a great leader on this fight.
You know, I was listening to that cold open, Steve, and I hope this sophisticated audience—posse—appreciated the term. I think it was “Sharia values,” or maybe it was “Islamic values.”
You gotta ask yourself: what are Islamic values? What is Sharia all about?
And to answer your question about the stakes, start with the proposition that under Islam, the perfect man—the individual who personifies, and lived, and practiced, and has directed all Muslims to follow him in everything he did—is the prophet Muhammad.
And his values were slavery, treating women as chattel at best, treating children as sexual objects, [00:15:00] the death cult, in short, that he lived out during his life.
That is the value that those who aspire to impose—yes, impose—Sharia in this country [follow].
And you just had a tiny sample of what they’re saying they intend to do.
Make no mistake about it: they want to impose these values on us, and they are antithetical to everything we hold dear and cannot coexist.
It’s one or the other.
Because the values that we have, that are enshrined in our Constitution, that were the gift of our God to us—those inalienable rights—are all unacceptable to these jihadis, and they will not tolerate them, and they will crush them.
So what is at stake is nothing less than the civilization, as you put it, the Judeo-Christian [00:16:00] civilization that we have been part of, that we have prospered from, and that we have defended for the better part of those 250 years.
And it could come to an end right here in Texas, where this process—you know, the old analogy of boiling the frog slowly so it doesn’t jump out of the pot—increasingly, the heat is being turned up in Texas.
And they seek to ensure that by the time they’re done with us, we are completely cooked, and that those values they ascribe to will be obliged as practiced by everyone.
And I just can’t believe that Americans, certainly in the great state of Texas, if they know what is going on here, will want any part of it. They will resist it.
The question is: do they resist it [00:17:00] when basically there’s no option left but violence? Or do they resist it right now by voting yes on Proposition 10 on this ballot in the Republican primary, starting tomorrow?
And if they make this—as you have, Steve, so commendably—the priority that it deserves to be, this could be the beginning of the end of Sharia in the United States.
And all I can say is: it better be.
[00:17:30] Steve Bannon:
Thank you. [Those years], you were [called names], and we were so proud. We did it two years in a row, and finally the second year—the first year was huge, the second year was so big we did an all-day conference—and the CPAC people fired the board and management and brought in new management, and you guys were invited back.
Also the situation at Fox—you were banned because Frank Gaffney had the courage to sit there and go: look at these Midland cities, what’s happening with these women, these young girls [00:18:00] who are the granddaughters and great-granddaughters of the people that stormed Normandy and fought with the RAF and were over Nazi Germany bombing.
You look at their granddaughters being raped in these great industrial cities.
And Raheem went to Brussels and to Amsterdam and he wrote up the no-go zone book. You guys were banned.
Why did both of it happen? Because it established the same thing here: people just wanted it to go away. They don’t want to deal with it.
This is what controlled opposition is, and they think they can make some money on the side.
Frank Gaffney, you have been right twice—when you had this concept civilizational jihad—and people said, “Frank Gaffney…”
I said, no. Frank Gaffney’s dead spot-on. Robert Spencer’s dead spot-on. Pamela Geller’s dead spot-on. Raheem Kassam is dead spot-on. Trevor Loudon.
All you gotta do is look at Mamdani, and Trevor Loudon warned you about that for 15 years.
Frank Gaffney, civilizational jihad has come to Texas. We just played some there. [00:19:00] That’s what the stakes are.
This is not a normal election. You’re not voting on some water system or property taxes. All those are big—do not get me wrong, they’re very important for the little-platoons model that makes this country so great.
But there’s something darker here, something quite evil that’s coming to Texas, and it needs to be eliminated.
The way you eliminate it is on March 3—it’s on the ballot—but that ballot starts tomorrow.
Frank Gaffney, civilizational jihad.
[00:19:34] Frank Gaffney:
Well, Steve, thank you for those compliments.
Lemme just say: I’d much rather have been wrong about all of this. I’d much rather see our country spared what we saw coming, because we saw it marching inexorably through—yes, Europe—but also other parts of the world, Latin America, certainly the Middle East.
And here, what is now before the people of [00:20:00] Texas is a choice.
Our greatest fear is, Steve, they don’t even know the choice is there to be made.
As you were talking about with Jenny, it’s number 10 of these propositions. It’s on the very bottom of a two-page form that’s about 24 inches long.
And most people might just click off the couple of guys at the top of the ticket who they know are in the throes of a major primary thrash.
And it might be only the jihadis who roll into this primary to vote down the ballot measure that simply says, “Texas should prohibit Sharia law.”
And if that happens, we will be a major step closer—you ask the stakes—a major step closer to exactly what the guys in that cold open are saying is their mission, which is [00:21:00] to remove this constitutional republic and make it over in the image of the perfect man, Muhammad.
The man who married a girl at six but didn’t consummate the marriage until she was nine. The man who personally beheaded somewhere between 600 and 900 Jews in a city that had welcomed him—the three tribes of Jews in Medina. He destroyed them one by one.
And he has promoted this idea that raping and pillaging and torturing and violent jihad for the purpose of conquest is the way—the path—as they call it in Arabic. That word is Sharia.
And if we don’t want Sharia, if we don’t want to be on that path—and by the way, anybody who thinks they’re gonna [00:22:00] benefit from being on this path, maybe they’ll think if they convert to Islam all will be well—I don’t think so.
But all I know is everybody else who refuses to abandon, for example, Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior will be given three choices, if they’re tolerated:
One, to convert to jihadism and Sharia and Islam.
Two, to live as an enslaved [person] in a status known as dhimmitude.
And three is just to be killed outright.
And the thing about dhimmitude is, you can be killed at any point that a Muslim decides, “Enough of this tolerance.”
And Steve, could I just say what is really chilling is the jihadis—these, I call them, Sharia supremacists—are convinced they’re winning.
And when that is the [00:23:00] case, their book—the Quran, the Hadiths, all the sacred texts, most of them about Muhammad, the perfect man, his life, his directions, his sayings—they’re told they must make the unbeliever feel subdued.
And what that means is jihad, big-time violent jihad.
So at the moment there’s this sort of thinly veiled mask that they’re just going to try to bring this about slowly and through a kind of electoral jihad.
And their numbers are pretty small right now, but what we have witnessed in Europe and elsewhere is, even though the numbers are small, to the extent they can become kingmakers in electoral processes, they will use that ruthlessly—block voting—to consolidate power, to advance what? The conquest.
[00:23:58] Steve Bannon:
If they take your warning—the very first thing we played on the clip wasn’t the cold open, because we had Jenny on first—but the clip where the guy’s bragging, he says, “We’ve done in Vienna what the Ottoman Turks couldn’t do when they tried to take it,” when the Polish—
[00:24:13] Frank Gaffney:
Two hundred years.
[00:24:14] Steve Bannon:
Was it [for] 200 years they hammered Vienna and they couldn’t take it. Finally they surrendered and left. Mm-hmm.
But they said, “10% here, 10% here, 10% here,” and London there, Sadiq Khan is almost 20%.
The English guy we had is one of the—well, I think he’s the wealthiest man in England now. He’s moved to Monaco.
He said—and he’s been vilified and eviscerated because he said—“Hey, the thing’s been colonized.”
You can’t even— you don’t even have free speech to talk about it.
That’s the power of what we gave down here: a permission-structure space.
The Texas Tribune did a great article, how this came outta nowhere and became a huge issue.
The New York Times then followed and did, I thought, a great article about how this came outta nowhere.
Of course they had to say we’re [00:25:00] conspiracy theorists because there’s really nothing going on.
And then I think they quoted one of the imams saying, “Yeah, we look at Texas as Medina, as like the new Medina.”
When you say Texas is the new Medina, what does that mean to people that are compliant to Sharia law?
[00:25:23] Frank Gaffney:
Well, you know, it’s not just The New York Times.
Mamdani talked about the model from Muhammad’s life, when he was the first Muslim immigrant. He went to Medina because he basically got thrown out of Mecca.
He went there and these three Jewish tribes welcomed him in.
And the point of that story is that Medina was ultimately taken by Muhammad and his armies, and all of the Jews were killed.
As I said, by some estimates, 600 to 900 of them by him personally, in a day no less.
This is the Sharia values. This is the Islamic choice.
And are there Muslims who don’t wanna do any of that to us? Of course there are.
There’s a term in authoritative Islam for those people, however: they’re called apostates.
And you’ve been interviewing my friend Nissar Hussain of late. He is an apostate and he can tell you—and has told your audience—what it’s like [00:26:00] to be at risk of death at any moment because that’s Sharia values.
Killing apostates is not only permissible under Sharia; it is obligatory.
And therefore, if you want that choice, ladies and gentlemen, you will find it most unsatisfactory in very short order, and it may be too late to undo it.
So make the right choice now.
And I would encourage people to go to our website, Steve, for much more on all of this. It’s called BanSharia.com.
You can not only learn about what Sharia is, what the values so-called are, you can also learn what you can do about it starting tomorrow.
If you’re in Texas, please go to the polls. Take that Republican primary ballot, vote all the way down at the bottom for number 10, Proposition 10.
It will simply tell everybody in Texas that you agree with the proposition: Texas should prohibit Sharia law—and so should the rest of our nation.
And our prayerful hope—and you’ve been leading this from day one—is that if we do get the kind of decisive victory that should reflect the will of the people of Texas, [00:28:00] then it will set the stage for rolling back Sharia, as we must, everywhere else in this country.
And if we don’t, Steve, the choice will be made, and the jihadis will be imposing their Sharia values on us in the worst imaginable way.
It mustn’t come to that, and we here in Texas have the opportunity to make it different.
And I pray—pray to God Almighty—that the people of Texas will respond to this call and act decisively to reject Sharia, and call on their elected representatives, from the governor on down in this state—who are now saying they feel called to prohibit Sharia—they need our support, and so do their counterparts elsewhere across this country.
[00:28:51] Steve Bannon:
Um, I’m making a command decision here. I’m gonna play this from the debate that we covered live last night.
I’m gonna do it tomorrow. I realize it’s the first day of early voting, [00:29:00] but we got a couple weeks of early voting.
I wanna play that tomorrow because I wanna spend this time with Frank.
Frank, some of the arguments made last night—and this is why Peter [McIlvenna]—really the idea hit me full force when [he] came over in November.
Now Peter McIlvenna has been trained by the top and most sophisticated anti-Sharia individuals in London and does tremendous work over there.
And the people he worked with—some were apostates and very sophisticated people.
He came in November and he contacted me at the time—in fact I think I had him on the show—and he goes:
“Steve, I know you worked with Nigel. You were central at Breitbart at the time with Raheem at Breitbart London, was central to Brexit.
And I know you had Gaffney, and Gaffney was banned, and Raheem wrote No-Go Zones, and on and on, that Tommy Robinson, you know, gone to prison so many times—and Tommy Robinson’s one of his heroes.”
He says, “I’m gonna tell you something.”
You know, I had Geert Wilders and Marine Le Pen come over in 2010, and we went around London, and Geert said at the time, “Hey, unless you get a hold of it now, it’s over. You’re in as bad shape as we are.”
And that always stuck with [McIlvenna].
And he told me after his trip to Dallas: “Let me tell you, it’s so much more advanced and sophisticated in the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex in North [00:30:00] Texas than it was in London when it first started.
This is very sophisticated—halal food, the whole thing. They get business—I think it’s a hundred million dollars.
They’ve ingrained into the business community, they’ve ingrained into the real estate community.
They’ve done this—they’ve learned a lot from what happened in London.
And you can see they took the Sadiq Khan lessons and applied it to New York with Mamdani. They’re very sophisticated.”
What they’ve done here—Senate District 9 was part of that—was the DSA ground game.
What is your warning to people, because the hour is late. This is not something I think we have a lot of time on.
One of the top experts in the world has come here and said, “I don’t think you people quite get it. You are very far down the path already to getting to that magic number of 10%. And once that happens—and they’re much more sophisticated about how they push their weight now, even with smaller numbers…”
We’ve got a couple of minutes here. I just want you to give a final warning about what the stakes are when people go to the polls tomorrow.
And we know from Jenny there’s gonna be crossover voting. We know certain elements of that community are gonna try to vote in a Republican primary, although they’re Democrats, to try to defeat this, sir.
[00:31:38] Frank Gaffney:
Yeah, I don’t know whether they’re Democrats, or in some cases I think they’re just plain old jihadists.
But they will be able to vote because of the open primaries in this state, and they will be able to vote for Sharia by saying no to this Proposition 10.
And to your question, Steve, [00:32:00] I think one of Peter’s principal takeaways—and I’m extremely proud of our association with Peter McIlvenna, and so appreciative of your having him featured on War Room as you do—
he says, look, you’ve indulged in this belief that, well, maybe 10 years away from what is happening in Europe. Yeah, it’s bad, but it’s not gonna happen here, at least not right away.
What he has been saying, I think on your air and certainly on mine, and privately wherever he can, is: it’s not 10 years away. It’s not five years away. It may be two years, but whatever it is, we’re closing fast.
And that is precisely because, as you say—and he does—the jihadis, the stealth jihadis, the civilizational jihadis—
and that wasn’t my term, by the way; that comes out of a book called An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America.
And everybody in this audience ought to read it. It’s short. It’s very easily [00:33:00] digested.
It was written by Mohammed Akram, a top Muslim Brotherhood operative, in 1991.
And what he basically said, in as many words, was: the mission of the Muslim Brotherhood in North America is a kind of civilizational jihad involving the sabotage of their miserable house by their hands—meaning ours—and the hands of the believers, so that Western civilization is destroyed and Allah’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.
Now, that document, by the way—and there’s quite a story behind how it was found; it was truly providential—arose from a traffic stop on the Chesapeake Bay Bridge.
That led to a search warrant because the guy driving the car, going back and forth with his wife taking pictures of the structural supports of the bridge, was wanted on a material arrest warrant.
That led to their home in Annandale, Virginia, a sleepy little suburb being raided, and down in the basement was found—wait for it—the archives of the Muslim Brotherhood in North America, in which this book was prominently located.
This little pamphlet turned out to be a prime piece of evidence in the largest terrorism-financing trial in U.S. history, right here in Texas, the Holy Land Foundation trial.
And it was used to convict five of the principals in that Holy Land Foundation. They’ve been doing hard time pretty much ever since. Yes.
But here’s the kicker, Steve: the idea was to prosecute them first and then prosecute the 300-some Muslim [00:35:00] Brotherhood organizations, some of which were identified in that little book of Mohammed Akram’s—
[00:35:05] Steve Bannon:
Yeah.
[00:35:06] Frank Gaffney:
—in a second phase of the trial.
And if that had happened, Steve—
[00:35:10] Steve Bannon:
Yeah.
[00:35:10] Frank Gaffney:
—we would not be where we are today.
Texas would not be under the assault it is by these jihadis.
America would not be penetrated by them and having, as you say, businesses, banks, Wall Street firms, money, government officials compromised to buy into the jihadi [agenda].
[00:35:29] Steve Bannon:
Frank, we got to—
[00:35:31] Frank Gaffney:
—as Donald Trump said he would do.
And the tragedy of it is, it didn’t happen because Barack Obama was elected president right about the time that that first set of convictions went down.
And that was the end of the prosecution of the Brotherhood after that.
In fact, they were lifted up and enabled to run their ops in our country, which they do to this day.
And it must stop, and it must stop here in Texas.
[00:35:52] Steve Bannon:
Thirty seconds—where do people go?
[00:35:56] Frank Gaffney:
I would encourage them to go, first and foremost, to [00:36:00] BanSharia.com.
Please contribute—there’s a donate page. It would be very helpful to help this campaign go forward.
My personal sites: I’m @FrankGaffney on X. Substack is SecuringAmerica.Substack.com.
You can find our shows and much more there.
Godspeed, my friend. Thank you for all you’re doing on this front.
[00:36:23] Steve Bannon:
Thank you. I’ll talk to you tonight.
It kicks off tomorrow, leading to game day on March 3.
Early voting in Texas on the banning of Sharia on Prop 10.